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I was wondering how this works. I don't have any problems or ideas, just trying to understand it better. Maybe afterwards though. ;)
Alright, so first step is that you die.
You do your time in the other world, and then are returned to life.
You lose 10% (first death), 20% (second death), 40% (third death), or 80% (fourth death on) of your total powerlevel permanently after your time spent in the other world. If it's your first death and you ended with 1,000 powerlevel, you would be at 900 powerlevel.
You are returned to life with half of your powerlevel, and the only way to get it back is to eat a sensu bean. So I would return with 450 out of 900 powerlevel? OR would I return at 450 out of 450 powerlevel, and that extra 450 is just stored away until I eat a bean? I assume you return at 450 out of 900.
Can you use channel before you have eaten a bean? Can you rest before you have eat a bean? If you can, and do, what would it put your powerlevel at?
I was wondering how this works. I don't have any problems or ideas, just trying to understand it better. Maybe afterwards though. ;)
Alright, so first step is that you die.
You do your time in the other world, and then are returned to life.
You lose 10% (first death), 20% (second death), 40% (third death), or 80% (fourth death on) of your total powerlevel permanently after your time spent in the other world. If it's your first death and you ended with 1,000 powerlevel, you would be at 900 powerlevel.
You are returned to life with half of your powerlevel, and the only way to get it back is to eat a sensu bean. So I would return with 450 out of 900 powerlevel? OR would I return at 450 out of 450 powerlevel, and that extra 450 is just stored away until I eat a bean? I assume you return at 450 out of 900.
Can you use channel before you have eaten a bean? Can you rest before you have eat a bean? If you can, and do, what would it put your powerlevel at?
You are at 450/900. Your pl gains from sparring, training, master training are all based on 900. Your current pl can never, ever go above 450 until you eat a bean, no matter what.
Can you channel? Would it just return you to 450 pl?
Can you rest? Would it just return you to 450 current pl? How does the auto-system know you have not ate a bean yet? Wouldn't 3 days of rest return you to 900 out of 900?
If you are using a move or something that takes away a % of your base pl each turn, is it a % of the 900 or of 450?
Can you channel? Would it just return you to 450 pl?
Can you rest? Would it just return you to 450 current pl? How does the auto-system know you have not ate a bean yet? Wouldn't 3 days of rest return you to 900 out of 900?
If you are using a move or something that takes away a % of your base pl each turn, is it a % of the 900 or of 450?
Like I said, 450 is the highest your current pl can ever go, no matter what, until you eat a sensu. The auto system knows ;) And you can channel, but it'd just go up to 450. Until you eat a Sensu, your base pl is basically 450, except when it comes to calculating gains from master training, sparring, etc.
Are there moves that take base pl? I wasn't aware of them. Maybe I'm just forgetting something.
TheRAGER
02-04-2010, 07:19 PM
Ouch thats really harsh!
I would think a ki channel would be ok being its only temporary
Ouch thats really harsh!
I would think a ki channel would be ok being its only temporary
Just don't die then :)
Like I said, 450 is the highest your current pl can ever go, no matter what, until you eat a sensu. The auto system knows ;) And you can channel, but it'd just go up to 450. Until you eat a Sensu, your base pl is basically 450, except when it comes to calculating gains from master training, sparring, etc.
Are there moves that take base pl? I wasn't aware of them. Maybe I'm just forgetting something.
What about resting? 3 days of no self training/sparring/fighting, whatever. Would it return your current pl to 450? Or is it impossible to auto-rest before you eat a bean?
From base? No, don't think so. Last round transformations took away from your absolute maximum powerlevel each turn though, so it was always the same loss each turn.
What about resting? 3 days of no self training/sparring/fighting, whatever. Would it return your current pl to 450? Or is it impossible to auto-rest before you eat a bean?
From base? No, don't think so. Last round transformations took away from your absolute maximum powerlevel each turn though, so it was always the same loss each turn.
Resting works, but still only brings you to 450.
TheRAGER
02-04-2010, 08:22 PM
You lose 10% (first death), 20% (second death), 40% (third death), or 80% (fourth death on) of your total powerlevel permanently
So Permanently losing PL, coming back with only 1/2 PL and its impossible to heal past unless you get a really rare Item, a sensu bean.
You lose all of your credits, all items and clothes and weapons, everything.
Sounds like your making a downward spiral for a character.
Its like once they die you want to make it as easy as possible for them to die again, and again, and again till the player quits i guess?
I understand Dying is bad. You shouldn't want to die and some penalties should come out of auto resurrection, But I feel all of that it just way too harsh
Its bad enough losing everything you worked for the entire game from 1 death
Its too Crazy!
Cool, thanks. I'm satisfied. ^_^
So Permanently losing PL, coming back with only 1/2 PL and its impossible to heal past unless you get a really rare Item, a sensu bean.
You lose all of your credits, all items and clothes and weapons, everything.
Sounds like your making a downward spiral for a character.
Its like once they die you want to make it as easy as possible for them to die again, and again, and again till the player quits i guess?
I understand Dying is bad. You shouldn't want to die and some penalties should come out of auto resurrection, But I feel all of that it just way too harsh
Its bad enough losing everything you worked for the entire game from 1 death
Its too Crazy!
My plan, on Earth anyway, is to go back to previous zones where the enemies are easy. They have sensu beans also ya know! And most players won't be hanging around these weaker areas anymore.
So Permanently losing PL, coming back with only 1/2 PL and its impossible to heal past unless you get a really rare Item, a sensu bean.
You lose all of your credits, all items and clothes and weapons, everything.
Sounds like your making a downward spiral for a character.
Its like once they die you want to make it as easy as possible for them to die again, and again, and again till the player quits i guess?
I understand Dying is bad. You shouldn't want to die and some penalties should come out of auto resurrection, But I feel all of that it just way too harsh
Its bad enough losing everything you worked for the entire game from 1 death
Its too Crazy!
Hmm, being dead you will increase your pl by a lot, even with the 10% loss. It's possible to learn techniques that make you incredibly powerful...all at the cost of a few items? And if you don't keep all of your items on your character...
Then we are left with the fact that your pl is cut in half until you find a rare item. In all likelihood, that half of your base after the pl gained while dead is close to, if not higher than your base pl before you died.
So we are left with...after coming back from the dead, your "base" pl (not really your base, but the highest you can get your current pl to) is the same as it was before you died. Doesn't sound so bad to me ;)
I've always loved the finding a sensu bean game after you die. Maybe it's more enjoyable for a ref though. People show their true colors, and will do almost anything to earn that bean. A lot of times, it leads to more players dying. ^_^
Some people might see the death penalty as harsh when you lose 10%-80% of your powerlevel after your time in the other world, then go to half of that until you find a bean. I think it's really good for the game though. New players can always join the RPG, and still make an impact on the game. It should keep people very close in pl, and also not allow us to get outrageous amounts of pl. We might get to millions of pl later, but after a few deaths, we fall below that, and each additional death slows us down more. Wishing someone back from death would just be awesome also, as it should be since it's wasting a dragonball wish (Which is very hard to find all 7).
Roner
02-04-2010, 11:04 PM
TheRager, this is why once i got to Vegeta, I just placed my credits in the bank, therefore, if i die, i'll still always have some sweet cash to rely on!
TheRAGER
02-05-2010, 07:57 AM
TheRager, this is why once i got to Vegeta, I just placed my credits in the bank, therefore, if i die, i'll still always have some sweet cash to rely on!
I have been playing on Earth since day 1, Still No bank.
Mado, you say that you can more then double your pl while dead, is that something new?
The way i remember it from years ago you did get a decent increase but no where near double+.
I have been playing on Earth since day 1, Still No bank.
Mado, you say that you can more then double your pl while dead, is that something new?
The way i remember it from years ago you did get a decent increase but no where near double+.
You should know me better than that ;)
Epyon
02-05-2010, 03:26 PM
I have been playing on Earth since day 1, Still No bank.
Mado, you say that you can more then double your pl while dead, is that something new?
The way i remember it from years ago you did get a decent increase but no where near double+.
Then a few years ago you sucked in the after-life. :-D
What happens if you die again before eating a sensu? How is your powerlevel in the other world handled if this happens, and how is it handled when you return back to life(again)?
What happens if you die again before eating a sensu? How is your powerlevel in the other world handled if this happens, and how is it handled when you return back to life(again)?
It wouldn't make a difference. Whether you eat a Sensu or not before you die again, it's handled the same way. Does that answer your question?
Yup, yup, yup.
I was just wondering if during your second stay in the other world, if your current pl still couldn't go over what it was when you were previously returned to life (but had not eaten a bean yet).
It would be pretty harsh penalizing someone for not eating a bean and dying again, so I'm happy with there being no difference if this situation occurs.
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