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ville616

12-02-2009, 05:15 PM

20 reasons why video games are better than girls

1.they come with instructions
2.they let you cheat
3.you can borrow them from your friends
4.when you go to the mall you can actually pick one up
5.they look great as soon as you wake up in the morning
6.pause button
7.50$ is all you will ever have to spend on them
8.you can always get the hottest one
9.no shower,no problem
10.it's okay to spend an evening alone with them and (a beer) 2 liter of pop
11.you can go on "dates" in you underpants(underwear gang cue in here lol)
12.your mom won't get mad if your in the room with the door shut
13.you get the XL pizza all to yourself
14.all you have to do to make the relationship work is find a save point.
15.you can ignore them for a week without consequences
16.your friends can watch
17.no matter how many times you mess up you can try again
18.if your having problems with them your friends will listen.
19.you can actually get the ones in the magazines
20.if you get bored you can trade them in for a new one.

Dark Defender

12-03-2009, 07:35 PM

lol nice.

Chris

12-05-2009, 08:17 PM

I'll take a girl

Cloud

12-05-2009, 10:02 PM

http://17.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_krbeeoN9Rt1qz4teno1_500.jpg

Lies. I didn't notice there was a 360 controller in this picture until a potentially gay friend pointed it out.

PalmtopTiger

12-06-2009, 12:06 AM

But a game can't get you laid! :P

ville616

12-06-2009, 04:32 AM

Cloud you find me a girl that looks like that and play video games i'll take her any day. My wife hates the 360 she say its the worst thing ever created.

Epyon

12-06-2009, 08:49 AM

Cloud you find me a girl that looks like that and play video games i'll take her any day. My wife hates the 360 she say its the worst thing ever created.

My girlfriend plays CS:S and DoD:S with me. Rock Band and Wii games too.

I know a couple other really attractive girls that play games and can hang with the guys. They are incredibly rare though.

Sephiroth

12-06-2009, 11:55 AM

I've never met a girl that wouldn't play most Wii games and Rock Band. From my experience, it's game content. There is no desire to play Call of Duty 2 with me, just like there is no desire to watch "Enemy at the Gates" with me (although I thought Jude Law would be enough to pull her in).

And look at a game like "Sims" which is overrun with female players.

Ryujin

12-06-2009, 01:37 PM

My girlfriend enjoys playing MW2 and L4D and I believe she is quite good looking.

TheRAGER

12-06-2009, 02:22 PM

My g/f is very attractive. Not only does she own several systems of her own and play games like L4D she Even plays PM! ^_^

PalmtopTiger

12-06-2009, 02:48 PM

My g/f is very attractive. Not only does she own several systems of her own and play games like L4D she Even plays PM! ^_^

Hehe thank you sweetie :D Don't forget BioShock *_* can't wait for 2...

BTW: With all the cons I've been to, there are PLENTY of attractive guys AND girls that play games, its actually how I met Rager. ^_^ But yeah its not really that rare anymore since gaming has got very popular. Want a hot gamer girl? Go to a con. Done.

Epyon

12-06-2009, 02:49 PM

Ville, I do agree the games are much easier to deal with, but girls just have better merits.

ville616

12-06-2009, 04:31 PM

Ville, I do agree the games are much easier to deal with, but girls just have better merits.
I agree

Cloud

12-06-2009, 05:42 PM

It sounds silly but I'm not really into girls who are really into videogames. Simple stuff like Rock Band or Wii games don't count. Everybody loves those.

Epyon

12-06-2009, 07:37 PM

It sounds silly but I'm not really into girls who are really into videogames. Simple stuff like Rock Band or Wii games don't count. Everybody loves those.

Agreed. They always get mad when you whoop their ass.

Mado

12-06-2009, 07:51 PM

Agreed. They always get mad when you whoop their ass.

Haha, that reminds me of Rachel and me playing Mario Kart 64. Usually she would be the one who suggested playing, but after a couple of races she would get REALLY mad at me and quit (because I'm so awesome :D)

Epyon

12-06-2009, 09:52 PM

Haha, that reminds me of Rachel and me playing Mario Kart 64. Usually she would be the one who suggested playing, but after a couple of races she would get REALLY mad at me and quit (because I'm so awesome :D)

Fortunately Mario Kart had Double Dash, so you could throw 'em on the back and let them not suck as much and still bond.

PalmtopTiger

12-07-2009, 10:22 PM

Wow, many of you definitely have not met any GOOD girl gamers that could whoop your ass. We do exist. :rolleyes:
And as far as getting pissed for losing, the only ones I know who are like that are all guys..

Epyon

12-07-2009, 10:28 PM

Depends on the girl or the guy. But if someone is bad and they just get stomped, they do get mad, no matter the sex.

Reno

12-07-2009, 10:31 PM

PalmtopTiger

12-08-2009, 12:40 AM

Get pissed, yeah, sure. It's natural.
But if a guy lost because his opponent keeps using the same cheap move over and over, he realize it's just a good strategy because it worked on him. A girl on the other hand will never play the game with you again.

Quite the opposite. I would play again, really, unless the other player is a total jackass about it. Being cheap is..well, cheap. A strategy, yes, but it doesn't make you a good player if that's all you got. Then there are some guys (crazy fanboys who play games like Brawl every day of their lives) who would be pissed if they lost even once. I go to school with a shitload of em, and my brother is one of them too. Maybe there are girls like this, I don't doubt it...but I have yet to meet them.

edit:
Wow, really, my rep went down? I hope you guys get your asses whooped by gamer girls..lol

Reno

12-08-2009, 02:12 AM

Oh I don't doubt girls could beat my ass at some games. It has happened before and will happen again. I really don't know where I was going with my comment, because both guys and gals can be sore losers. I gave you some rep by the way. Cheers.

However, I think if I do stuff you might consider "cheap" because I know it will specifically work on you (And wouldn't work on a more advanced player) that it's not cheap at all. That's just smart and good strategy. Something that a lot of--but not all--girls can't grasp. Most casual girl gamers are playing to just have fun, where as guys are playing to win despite the way they go about(In fact we are trying to piss you off!).

Take a first person shooter game for example. If I was playing you 1 on 1 and got the lead, I wouldn't go running around the level looking for you(And get ambushed), I would probably get some good weapons and hold a spot down--make you come to me--and "camp." After doing stuff like this over and over, many players get pissed. Maybe that's not the best example, but all I could think of.

I still don't know where I am going with this, haha...

Reno

12-08-2009, 02:17 AM

Anyone remember Goldeneye? Of course you fuckin' do, it's one of the best games ever made! Once you take the lead, proximity mine the hell out of the level, then sit back(have your character stare at the ground or a wall so no one knows exactly where you are) and let your friend try to find you...ha ha ha, what a dick move. But we all did it at least once!

Cloud

12-08-2009, 07:56 PM

Wow, many of you definitely have not met any GOOD girl gamers that could whoop your ass. We do exist. :rolleyes:

Impossible. I have never and will never lose to a girl at a videogame. I know plenty of gamer girls too who are good. They're just not as good as I am.

And to add to Reno's post, camping is a legit strategy. I find it funny when people complain about camping. Especially games with kill cams ala Modern Warfare 2.

ville616

12-08-2009, 11:11 PM

Impossible. I have never and will never lose to a girl at a videogame. I know plenty of gamer girls too who are good. They're just not as good as I am.

SO True

TheRAGER

12-09-2009, 02:12 PM

Impossible. I have never and will never lose to a girl at a videogame. I know plenty of gamer girls too who are good. They're just not as good as I am.
SO True
What are you both fucking retarded? To say that its impossible for a girl to beat you in a game, you must be. You couldn't possibly be that full of yourself. You must not have any female gamer friends. they are just as vicious!
What next? are you going to say that it's impossible for a girl to beat you in a fight? Then you never met a black belt girl.

Girls that focus in one area become really good at things.
Like in the different Smash Bros., a few girls have beaten me several times. sometimes i beat them. and im no push over!

Chess is usually considered a mans game right?
http://www.english-online.at/sports/chess/alexandra-kosteniuk-chess-world-champion.htm
why was there a female world champion?

but as for video games see if you can beat these girls:
http://www.fragdolls.com/
Thats a site for elite gamer girls. are either of you known around the world for your scores on games? Have either of you won championships, regional, national or world?
If not then sit down and shut up newbies!

Cloud

12-09-2009, 02:24 PM

you going to say that it's impossible for a girl to beat you in a fight? Then you never met a black belt girl.

A girl has never and will never beat me in a fight.

I've played against female clans. Mopped 'em up.

Mado

12-09-2009, 03:00 PM

What are you both fucking retarded? To say that its impossible for a girl to beat you in a game, you must be. You couldn't possibly be that full of yourself. You must not have any female gamer friends. they are just as vicious!
What next? are you going to say that it's impossible for a girl to beat you in a fight? Then you never met a black belt girl.

Girls that focus in one area become really good at things.
Like in the different Smash Bros., a few girls have beaten me several times. sometimes i beat them. and im no push over!

Chess is usually considered a mans game right?
http://www.english-online.at/sports/chess/alexandra-kosteniuk-chess-world-champion.htm
why was there a female world champion?

but as for video games see if you can beat these girls:
http://www.fragdolls.com/
Thats a site for elite gamer girls. are either of you known around the world for your scores on games? Have either of you won championships, regional, national or world?
If not then sit down and shut up newbies!

I've never been beaten in a video game by a girl, and I've never seen one better than me. This includes playing with them online in l4d.

Rachel (my fiance) is a second degree black belt in tae kwon do. She's admitted plenty of times there's no way she could beat me in a fight, I'm too much stronger and bigger than she is. I could see a 'roided out chick beating me up, but that's about it. And if I did steroids I'd be a lot stronger than she was, so yeah.

Cloud

12-09-2009, 03:03 PM

If you had perhaps said Badminton or a cook off, then yes, a girl would destroy me. Instead you chose the two hobbies I've spent the majority of my life on. Videogames and fighting.

TheRAGER

12-09-2009, 03:07 PM

A girl has never and will never beat me in a fight.

I've played against female clans. Mopped 'em up.

yup, full of yourself.
When i was young and stupid, i used to think its not possible to get beaten by a girl. I mean we have testosterone as a large advantage over females.
then, after being in karate for a while and finally, I got to fight the higher belts, even the black belts.... it was like a whole new world. A girl in her mid 40s was just about untouchable to me a fit, (at he time) young man.
As I got to her level, I too started to get better. but she was never a push over.
and she wasn't to only good female fighter there

My friends have a saying:
"Don't get cocky cause its gonna get rocky"
Simply meaning, don't underestimate anyone cause it will lead to your downfall. and when its a girl who takes you down it will hurt that much more!

Really you guys are starting to seem Chauvinistic.

TheRAGER

12-09-2009, 03:18 PM

I've never been beaten in a video game by a girl, and I've never seen one better than me. This includes playing with them online in l4d.

Rachel (my fiance) is a second degree black belt in tae kwon do. She's admitted plenty of times there's no way she could beat me in a fight, I'm too much stronger and bigger than she is. I could see a 'roided out chick beating me up, but that's about it. And if I did steroids I'd be a lot stronger than she was, so yeah.

the only reason she cant beat you is cause you are important to her. Now if she didn't know you at all and you were trying to hurt her kid or something watch the beaten you get. you'll be lucky to be alive!

while I'm trained in Isshinru karate, if I get into a fight I most likely will NOT use most of my training. Thats because I don't want to cripple a person or even kill them. If I have to, I have to. But when its someone real close to you you kind of get a mental block against killing that person.

Remember muscles really dont mean much in a fight with a martial artist. Speed, accuracy and technique are usually what will win.

Mado

12-09-2009, 04:04 PM

the only reason she cant beat you is cause you are important to her. Now if she didn't know you at all and you were trying to hurt her kid or something watch the beaten you get. you'll be lucky to be alive!

while I'm trained in Isshinru karate, if I get into a fight I most likely will NOT use most of my training. Thats because I don't want to cripple a person or even kill them. If I have to, I have to. But when its someone real close to you you kind of get a mental block against killing that person.

Remember muscles really dont mean much in a fight with a martial artist. Speed, accuracy and technique are usually what will win.

Well, considering all I'd have to do is run at her and tackle her, there's not much she can do then. Wrestling includes a lot of technique, but if your opponent is able to easily over power you, there's not much you can do. Plus I used to wrestle ;) And almost every fight ends up on the ground anyway.

Cloud

12-09-2009, 05:01 PM

Epyon

12-09-2009, 06:24 PM

And Matt's a crazy Irishman. Crazy Irish men can fight. Fact.

Seriously though, the only time I've been beat by a girl is on an N64 game. Girls don't play video games that much and it's entirely possible that they've never been beaten by one.

Ryujin

12-09-2009, 07:56 PM

If a girl knows karate or tai kwon do I would say they have no advantage nless against someone exactly equal in strength and speed. Both are completely useless in a real fight.

I don't believe there is a girl within 10 pounds of me who could beat me in a fight. Start talking about roided out 240 pound chicks trained in real fighting martial arts, might be a different story.

I play with 3 or 4 girls online who are decent, but not as good as I am in the games we play. I'm sure there are plenty who can beat me at SSB, but not many in the games I actually play. There are obviously some who could, but I would put it at a far, far lower percentage than the guys who could.

AkuTenshi

12-10-2009, 12:24 AM

I figured it out

Rager isnt the one posting, his girlie found out he had saved his password on PM and shes just been logging in to argue with us as a "male" figure.

...Either that or Rager is getting booty every time he posts against us....

But in seriousness, I know very little about video games, but when it comes to fighting, I would not put it against a girl just because she is a female. Ive studied Taekwondo, wrestling, Hapkido, Aikido, Judo, Tai Chi, and Capoeira. Im not saying that im the best at fighting, especially street fighting because i dont look for fights, but in my studies I have seen some AMAZING female fighters. If you want to talk about males vs. females with MMA, then yes, men are built more able to kill. Therefore if we want to rant about it, we can. If you want to kill someone or beat them to a pulp, buy some kali sticks or a gun. But if you want to see who is more skilled as a fighter in speed, agility, and stamina, there are some amazing female fighters out there that could easily do a number on all of us. And dont even get me started on weapons fighting (you said most fights go to the ground, but we are still talking about street fight "no weapons" rules. If you are talking with weapons, females are equally formidible).

Aku ranting *out*

PalmtopTiger

12-10-2009, 01:28 AM

Lmao Aku...Nah I am not posting under my boyfriend's name. He gets booty regardless of his posts. ;)
Women can be amazing at anything a man can do..except for maybe pissing names on the ground. I don't think I could do that, at least with ease...XD

The posts are really beginning to sound sexist though. Why do you think there are female firefighters? Female cops? They are strong and capable of doing their job, just the same as their male counterparts. You don't need a girl on roids to kick your ass either, but keep telling yourself that if that makes you feel better.

Back to the topic of games, I played Bioshock a few months ago..never died until the near end of Proving Grounds chapter (Second to last level of the game) and I was on medium, died only once or twice. A friend of mine and Rager have been playing...and every time they play, they die at least once (sometimes not at all, I give them that much lol) and they are still in the first half of the game. They are on the same difficulty setting as I am too. When I have the time, I'm going to play on difficult...and not die at all. ;] But yeah, girls are just as capable as guys...even with FPS.

Cloud

12-10-2009, 01:57 AM

closedminded

The line between being sexist and truthful when discussing this matter is very thin. It's only natural that it would seem this way. Physically, men are just built to do some things better than women. You can't deny that. With fighting, if you take a great male fighter vs a great female fighter at roughly the same weight I guarantee the man wins.

If what you're taking out of this that we think women are useless and can't do anything for themselves then you're reading into it in the wrong way. Females can be great at anything. Sometimes the way I joke is lost in text since it has no tone, so I felt the need to clarify.

TheRAGER

12-10-2009, 12:04 PM

Well, considering all I'd have to do is run at her and tackle her, there's not much she can do then. Wrestling includes a lot of technique, but if your opponent is able to easily over power you, there's not much you can do. Plus I used to wrestle ;) And almost every fight ends up on the ground anyway.
A lot do but where I come from a lot of KOs and broken limbs do as well. which in Wrestling very seldom happens.
If she wanted to hurt you, being wrestling you have to lower to center of gravity your lower to the ground, all she has to do is lift that knee into your face while you run at her. If it doesnt knock you out it should at least break your nose. may even give you a concussion. so I'd say the advantage goes to the striker not the grappler. Should you tackle her why her backs turned (which would be fucked up and not Chivalrous) and you get her down, you would probably win. I believe her style doesn't offer much for the ground.
See below.

When you say Karate, do you mean point fighting? Point fighting and real fighting are two very different things, Daniel-san.

Karate and stand up fighting is susceptible to grappling. Hypothetically, if you were to get in a fight with Matt who is trained in wrestling and is a pretty powerful dude(;)) to begin with I would put my house on him winning. I've spent a lot of time in and out of MMA gyms throughout my life and I've seen this scenario happen many, many times. Unless you're trained in all aspects of fighting, or a style that is more true to life fighting instead of fight scenes you see in movies(because like Matt said, the majority of fights end up on the ground which is very true) then I'm not going to worry. Size combined with athleticism is a big factor in fighting.

Most of what I've posted was a joke in saying I can't lose and whatnot. But some of it is true. I spend a lot of time playing videogames and I don't come across many people who can outclass me, male or female. You can put me up against anyone in a game I play often and I will always believe I can win.

Same with fighting. I've spent a lot of time getting beat up in gyms so I know I'm not the best, but you put me up against anyone and I will believe I can win. Especially someone only trained in a disciplines like Karate which is meant for point fighting when it comes to being competitive. So a female black belt in Karate I'm not worried about.

Isshinryu Karate Is one of the newest styles. Its Grandmaster died not to long ago. So its only a few Generations old.
Its style teach both point fighting and Real fighting. The Sensais will tell you in a real fight this move is useless. on the other hand they will say other moves use only if you have to cause most things we are taught are to cripple or Kill. 1 hit = 1 kill! It teaches you how to deal with Martial artists AND Street Fighters! There are no fancy flashy moves so you will Never see this in a movie. its direct fighting!
I learned speed and skill from karate
I too have Been trained in wrestling. I did it for a few years. I have learned how to use my weight from it
even though its not ligit, I'm also listing backyard wrestling cause through it I learned that if I have to take a hit how to minimalize damage done to me. not to mention how to survive high falls lol.

That said, whats a real fight? fighting till your broken up? What happens when you arent broken up?
Simple you keep fighting till someone is knocked out, broken something in their body (wont always stop the fight.) Or someone dies.

That said if a wrestler and I were to fight to the death I say I'd win hands down. for I have been trained to kill with my bare hands. its actually very easy.
1 punch can stop your heart.
I can shatter your kneecap with a small kick that I know you wouldn't see coming.
any part of your body is at my mercy!
Should you still doubt Martial arts, come to New York and i'll show you how to fight!
Yes I have knocked out peoples teeth.
I have even KO'ed a person.
But as I said in a previous post, I dont like doing those things. I'm capable but rather not unless I have to.

and that's not using weapons which I have training in about 7 melee weapons.
I was asked by my sensai to be a jr, sensai because I was that passionate about it. I turned it down cause I could no longer afford to go.

Thank you for admitting that its not impossible to beat you. i'm sure you are really good but losing in a video game is Never impossible.

And Matt's a crazy Irishman. Crazy Irish men can fight. Fact.

Seriously though, the only time I've been beat by a girl is on an N64 game. Girls don't play video games that much and it's entirely possible that they've never been beaten by one.
I'm Irish too whats your point? lol
Girls dont play that much? do you live in the middle of the desert?
here in New York there are many many Gamer girls.

a gamer girl is Not a girl who plays video games cause other people want to play but rather are the ones that have their own systems and play play often cause they want to!
I have a female friend that Owns an alienware (she got a discount) and is now learning how to build computers cause she loves PC gaming rather then console gaming.

You have to crawl out of your box man.

And thats the whole point of this... ANYONE can be beat in a video game!

If a girl knows karate or tai kwon do I would say they have no advantage nless against someone exactly equal in strength and speed. Both are completely useless in a real fight.

I don't believe there is a girl within 10 pounds of me who could beat me in a fight. Start talking about roided out 240 pound chicks trained in real fighting martial arts, might be a different story.

I play with 3 or 4 girls online who are decent, but not as good as I am in the games we play. I'm sure there are plenty who can beat me at SSB, but not many in the games I actually play. There are obviously some who could, but I would put it at a far, far lower percentage than the guys who could.

Don't knock Karate. There are many styles some of them are mostly useless in a real fight. Isshinryu is NOT one of those. fight a girl from my dojo, try to win. and good luck to you!

Thank you for admitting you can be beaten in a game. That's really all this is about.
I figured it out

Rager isnt the one posting, his girlie found out he had saved his password on PM and shes just been logging in to argue with us as a "male" figure.

...Either that or Rager is getting booty every time he posts against us....

But in seriousness, I know very little about video games, but when it comes to fighting, I would not put it against a girl just because she is a female. Ive studied Taekwondo, wrestling, Hapkido, Aikido, Judo, Tai Chi, and Capoeira. Im not saying that im the best at fighting, especially street fighting because i dont look for fights, but in my studies I have seen some AMAZING female fighters. If you want to talk about males vs. females with MMA, then yes, men are built more able to kill. Therefore if we want to rant about it, we can. If you want to kill someone or beat them to a pulp, buy some kali sticks or a gun. But if you want to see who is more skilled as a fighter in speed, agility, and stamina, there are some amazing female fighters out there that could easily do a number on all of us. And dont even get me started on weapons fighting (you said most fights go to the ground, but we are still talking about street fight "no weapons" rules. If you are talking with weapons, females are equally formidible).

Aku ranting *out*

That would be amusing if she did that but no its my own free will. lol

I have to say I am impressed with how much you have learned. it would probably be fun to spar you.:)

I agree with what you said. While men have advantages it doesnt mean that women can't beat us.

I would like for each of them to come to NY and bump in the wrong black girl LMAO oh that would be great. they would see life differently!

Oh and when you guys do lose to a girl in a game... Don't blame the controller or lag.

Mado

12-10-2009, 12:26 PM

A lot do but where I come from a lot of KOs and broken limbs do as well. which in Wrestling very seldom happens.
If she wanted to hurt you, being wrestling you have to lower to center of gravity your lower to the ground, all she has to do is lift that knee into your face while you run at her. If it doesnt knock you out it should at least break your nose. may even give you a concussion. so I'd say the advantage goes to the striker not the grappler. Should you tackle her why her backs turned (which would be fucked up and not Chivalrous) and you get her down, you would probably win. I believe her style doesn't offer much for the ground.
See below.

If I just came running at her and put my shoulder into her, there's no vital parts she's going to be able to hit before I knock her to the ground. Since I weigh ~190 pounds, it'd be pretty easy for me to tackle the average sized girl. 190 pound man running at a 125 pound girl? Sorry, there's not much she's going to be able to do, as long as the man isn't stupid.

TheRAGER

12-10-2009, 12:52 PM

If I just came running at her and put my shoulder into her, there's no vital parts she's going to be able to hit before I knock her to the ground. Since I weigh ~190 pounds, it'd be pretty easy for me to tackle the average sized girl. 190 pound man running at a 125 pound girl? Sorry, there's not much she's going to be able to do, as long as the man isn't stupid.

Like I said you will be lower to the ground using a wrestling charge. I know the moves cause I have done them too.
You run at her she knees you In the face! to bring your knee up about a foot or 2 can be in the blink of an eye.
If that doesn't end the fight she will at least have a small advantage from it.
Im not saying there is no way you can beat her, just don't get cocky.

by the way, everything i had mentioned, that's w/o pressure points.
I dont know is she know them but if you get her down and she gives you a little pinch or poke that can turn things around too. :p

Ryujin

12-10-2009, 01:40 PM

Epyon

12-10-2009, 02:44 PM

I'm Irish too whats your point? lol
Girls dont play that much? do you live in the middle of the desert?
here in New York there are many many Gamer girls.

a gamer girl is Not a girl who plays video games cause other people want to play but rather are the ones that have their own systems and play play often cause they want to!
I have a female friend that Owns an alienware (she got a discount) and is now learning how to build computers cause she loves PC gaming rather then console gaming.

You have to crawl out of your box man.

I'm not in a box. I said there are good girl gamers. There aren't many. This is true. Count how many good male gamers you know, then count how many females. I guarantee the number of females is significantly less.

Yes, good girl gamers are out there, but there's barely any of them in comparison to males. When I hop in a game of L4D2 or a TF2 server, 9 times out of 10 all the players are male.

TheRAGER

12-10-2009, 02:48 PM

It comes down to a few points for both fighting and video games.... First, fighting:

We'll start off with the first detriment to girls in a fight: a lot fewer females work out, train in sports, train in martial arts, wrestling, etc. The fact is, that the percentage of girls who go through the physical training needed to beat most guys is very low. So, if 20% of guys do some sort of physical training, probably 5% at most of girls do. This is the first disadvantage. Most girls who might naturally be adept at the needed skills don't harness them.

The next point is females are naturally slower and weaker. This is not a sexist remark, just the truth. The vast majority of girls who do train would be unable to stop me from taking them down with a sweep or double leg, throwing in legs and rolling behind them, and choking them out. Most guys within 20 pounds of my weight can't stop me, much less girls. What are they going to do at this point? I have both of their legs immobilized, and they are being choked. If they don't resist at all with their arms, I can choke them out in less than 10 seconds. I have found I am pretty stubborn against pressure points; I don't let go. The only way to stop me is by immobilizing me completely or knocking me out.

She may raise a knee, in which cause I do a sweep on her legs and behind her...

I would say with the fewer percentages of women who train in anything, and their natural disadvantages, there are maybe 1 in 10 or 20 million women who could beat me.

Oh, and those 'kill in one strike to the chest' moves are pure gimmicks...

In video games, girls have one distinct disadvantage just like in fights: less of them play. I'd say only 20-40% of women play compared to men, probably closer to 20%. So the fact is that there is a smaller pool to draw on for skilled women players. Obviously, they probably exist, but there aren't a whole lot of them

1st, you have obviously NEVER been to a gym. I have been to several and I would say about 85% of the people at gyms are women.
Most guys who work out just want either abs or arms, most girls who work out do EVERYTHING! mainly cause of how the public views women and the smallest amount of fat.
It New York City Its actually rare to seen an unfit woman!
I dont know where you got that info from.
They are in fact slower. Science has proved that the average female is about .01 seconds slower with hand-eye coordination. (the number could be a little off)
Either way its SO SMALL that its almost Impossible to see a difference.
I dont know what kind of backward physics are in your area but here on earth things happen a little differently.

If you are squatting and charging at someone several feet away (typical wrestling take down) right before you hit your mark you see a knee speeding toward your face.
what happens?
You are Dedicated to that move, you have already started moving forward and with your body that low you CAN'T dodge around that knee and try to sweep the leg.
Are you super-human? Cause then it would be a different story!

Whats great about getting a Knee to the skull is the Knee doesnt need a lot of force Its solid bone!

As for your percentages, find some real facts cause I have a hard time believing that.

also remember one thing, if this is a Real fight as in life or death then you have a lot to worry about. Ok so you get her in a hold... she has nail and grabs your throat so hard she start making you bleed with in the second of her grabbing you... are you going to let go or keep holding on? what then if she Punctures it. you now in a state called dying.
also, you have balls right? Women love that target. have fun with that!
One of the balls go pop you will most likely be thrown into shock

TheRAGER

12-10-2009, 02:57 PM

I'm not in a box. I said there are good girl gamers. There aren't many. This is true. Count how many good male gamers you know, then count how many females. I guarantee the number of females is significantly less.

Yes, good girl gamers are out there, but there's barely any of them in comparison to males. When I hop in a game of L4D2 or a TF2 server, 9 times out of 10 all the players are male.

hmm lets try a PM comparison.
Palm-top Tiger is a girl and new to Planet mado.
Dark sun is a male and new to Planet Mado.

Dark sun has died as everyone knows.
Palm-top tiger Has Never died

If I remember right they are around the same age too.
Do you understand what im getting at?

I understand that there are less. Though that number has been raising and raising.

This whole thing I have been trying to say is not to underestimate some1 cause the are female.

Seeing as how you mostly agree There is no need for us to debate this further. thanks.

Mado

12-10-2009, 02:57 PM

1st, you have obviously NEVER been to a gym. I have been to several and I would say about 85% of the people at gyms are women.
Most guys who work out just want either abs or arms, most girls who work out do EVERYTHING! mainly cause of how the public views women and the smallest amount of fat.
It New York City Its actually rare to seen an unfit woman!
I dont know where you got that info from.
They are in fact slower. Science has proved that the average female is about .01 seconds slower with hand-eye coordination. (the number could be a little off)
Either way its SO SMALL that its almost Impossible to see a difference.
I dont know what kind of backward physics are in your area but here on earth things happen a little differently.

If you are squatting and charging at someone several feet away (typical wrestling take down) right before you hit your mark you see a knee speeding toward your face.
what happens?
You are Dedicated to that move, you have already started moving forward and with your body that low you CAN'T dodge around that knee and try to sweep the leg.
Are you super-human? Cause then it would be a different story!

Whats great about getting a Knee to the skull is the Knee doesnt need a lot of force Its solid bone!

As for your percentages, find some real facts cause I have a hard time believing that.

also remember one thing, if this is a Real fight as in life or death then you have a lot to worry about. Ok so you get her in a hold... she has nail and grabs your throat so hard she start making you bleed with in the second of her grabbing you... are you going to let go or keep holding on? what then if she Punctures it. you now in a state called dying.
also, you have balls right? Women love that target. have fun with that!
One of the balls go pop you will most likely be thrown into shock

I don't know what gyms you've been to, Rager, but the ones I've been to, I rarely see a woman actually lifting, they're usually just doing cardio. And the ones that are lifting are using machines, which correlate horribly to real-world strength. If you want to talk about workouts that equate to real-world strength, then you're talking about doing squats, deadlifts, rows, pullups, and shoulder presses (barbell or dumbbell). I rarely see a woman in the squat rack. If they are squatting, they're usually using the smith machine, which is retarded.

And for the record, I've wrestled Ryujin plenty of times. At times I was stronger than him, and others I was weaker. But it didn't matter, he's beaten me EVERY time (well, not every time, but ever since he was 16 or 17, he's 21 now). And I guarantee you that at my weakest I was still stronger than your average gym-going woman, and I had wrestling experience myself.

Mado

12-10-2009, 02:59 PM

1st, you have obviously NEVER been to a gym.

By the way, he's been going to the gym almost regularly for like four years. I say almost because its been off and on for him lately.

Epyon

12-10-2009, 03:04 PM

hmm lets try a PM comparison.
Palm-top Tiger is a girl and new to Planet mado.
Dark sun is a male and new to Planet Mado.

Dark sun has died as everyone knows.
Palm-top tiger Has Never died

If I remember right they are around the same age too.
Do you understand what im getting at?

I understand that there are less. Though that number has been raising and raising.

This whole thing I have been trying to say is not to underestimate some1 cause the are female.

Seeing as how you mostly agree There is no need for us to debate this further. thanks.

PM ≠ video games

Just saying.

Ryujin

12-10-2009, 03:39 PM

Errr, I've been to lifting gyms and been to MMA gyms/training.

Your point is that in wrestling you're normally charging your opponent? Anybody who just bull rushed me would be in for a surprise, as that's not what wrestling is about. Similar to judo, its about using the opponent's momentum against them. Unless I thought my opponent had zero skill, the take down wouldn't be a straight on rush...

How is this girl going to hit my balls or grab my throat when I'm behind her, with my legs locked in, and my arms around her neck?

At every martial arts and MMA place I've been, the fighter's biggest weakness was take down defense. Even watching UFC or pride fighting, I see it a lot.

I'm not claiming there is no woman out there that can beat me, I'm claiming there are very, very few who have taken the right kind of strength training, martial arts training, and who are fast enough to beat me. They would have to be quite a bit more skilled than me to overcome my natural advantages, much less what I have already learned and my strength training.

It would take much less training for a man to beat me than a woman.

Cloud

12-10-2009, 04:33 PM

I think you highly overestimate your accuracy and speed. The timing needed to stop a double leg takedown with a knee has to be so precise that I've seen maybe 1% of Muay Thai pros hit it 1% of the time. A trained wrestler scores a takedown on a stand up fighter at will. It has been proven.

Throughout the past decade in combat sports it has been proven time and again that the most effective styles for fighting are wrestling, jiu jitsu, and boxing / kickingboxing / Muay Thai. They are the best base to start training in. You sound so confident in your style though that I'd love to see you sign up for an MMA fight and put your training to the test. I'm not saying you would lose, but you'd quickly realize how different training is from a real fight and MMA is about as close as you can get to a real fight without getting arrested.

Although, MMA isn't sanctioned in New York so you'd have to leave the state. =D

RaGe

12-10-2009, 10:44 PM

*cough*

So...

How 'bout them video games?

TheRAGER

12-10-2009, 11:33 PM

ok to all of you

When I say Real fight I mean fight to the Death! No rules Nothing stopping you! Not the UFC bullshit.
This is all hypothetical of course, i understand in real life there would be consequence.

You really think the 1 hit = 1 kill is fake?
No one really wants to kill the other person for many reasons. There is always that little thing hold you back.
A lot of martial arts have been watered down over the years. Originally you trained to KILL!
Wrestling was NEVER training to KILL!

Even though some martial arts teach you to kill, you rarely hear of some1 dying from it. Lets face it, if you wanted to kill some1 and you were trained fighter would you fight them or just shoot them?
Just cause you dont hear about peoples deaths Does NOT mean the techniques are non-existent!

I dont overestimate. I know what I am capable of and if anything im overestimating you guys.

So your telling me that Mado or Ryujin trained on in wrestling verse me trained in Karate with some wrestling would go down easily if I stick more to karate, even if its a fight to the Death?
well as far as wrestling goes im 210lbs and about 5'10" More then likely im in a higher weight class so theres an advantage.

The whole gym comment was about the Number of girls in the gym NOT what types of workout they where doing.
BTW your strength work-out does NOT mean you will beat some one cardio based. Actually if anything the Cardio-based people are usually healthier and have a huge amount of endurence.

One day this Big Really, Really Built Black Guy Joins our Dojo. He originally did boxing. He was intimidating. but then I got to practice with him... :) while he was great with his arms he had almost Zero flexibility to the point he could not scratch his own ass. WHile he can move like a boxer, he could Not move enough to avoid my kicks and I would be to far for his punches. I usually knock the wind out of him early on.
After time he got better and gain some flexibility, he was never a match for me

This is a DBZ site, why did they NOT use UltraSSJ?
The muscles slow them down greatly

OK i know im just rambling and honestly I really dont want to do this anymore. Believe what you want. i'm done

RaGe

12-10-2009, 11:51 PM

I don't know what gyms you've been to, Rager, but the ones I've been to, I rarely see a woman actually lifting, they're usually just doing cardio. And the ones that are lifting are using machines, which correlate horribly to real-world strength. If you want to talk about workouts that equate to real-world strength, then you're talking about doing squats, deadlifts, rows, pullups, and shoulder presses (barbell or dumbbell). I rarely see a woman in the squat rack. If they are squatting, they're usually using the smith machine, which is retarded.

Man, since when are you so obsessed with this?

Rarely see women actually working out other than using machines and cardio? I rarely see men doing anything but straining their back using momentum trying to curl too much weight.

Point is, there are a lot of people at the gym who have improper form and are doing workouts that, from our admittedly quick and superficial judgment, appear to be less than efficient. However, is there really a greater percentage of poor female trainers than poor male trainers? I don't think so.

There's a one hour weight lifting class at Golds that is almost entirely female. In college my brother in law, about 6' and 200 lbs, admitted to trying to incorporate the class into his routine. He told me he went in with too much confidence, had trouble finishing the sets and left exhausted. Maybe, just maybe, there's a small possibility that the fairer sex can be something more than a cardio bunny bouncing on the stair mill. I'm not saying that males and females have to be equal in every aspect of physique, but what I am saying is that I find this thread annoying as crap.

Reno

12-11-2009, 12:04 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v418/SSmstzo/zoidberg_bad.jpg

Mado

12-11-2009, 12:32 AM

Man, since when are you so obsessed with this?

Rarely see women actually working out other than using machines and cardio? I rarely see men doing anything but straining their back using momentum trying to curl too much weight.

Point is, there are a lot of people at the gym who have improper form and are doing workouts that, from our admittedly quick and superficial judgment, appear to be less than efficient. However, is there really a greater percentage of poor female trainers than poor male trainers? I don't think so.

There's a one hour weight lifting class at Golds that is almost entirely female. In college my brother in law, about 6' and 200 lbs, admitted to trying to incorporate the class into his routine. He told me he went in with too much confidence, had trouble finishing the sets and left exhausted. Maybe, just maybe, there's a small possibility that the fairer sex can be something more than a cardio bunny bouncing on the stair mill. I'm not saying that males and females have to be equal in every aspect of physique, but what I am saying is that I find this thread annoying as crap.

Yeah, so the majority of people in gyms are retarded. But the majority of the people doing lifts that would equate to real-world strength are men, just what I've observed. But on the other hand, even the majority of those men are using horrible form, or squatting in the smith machine.

I dunno, I'm not even sure what the original argument was about. Rager fighting someone or something? Killing them, dunno.

Cloud

12-11-2009, 12:36 AM

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Even saying fighting to the death proves to me that your beliefs in fighting live in a Bruce Lee movie.

Raise of hands, how often have you guys come across a fight to the death? Fights get broken up either by civilians or the police. A wrestler can kill someone by holding top position and beating someones face in as can a jiu jitsu practitioner by holding a choke long enough. Anyone can kill anyone. It doesn't take 5000 year old techniques talk by some 100 year old monk.

Reno

12-11-2009, 12:44 AM

I have the same strategy when fighting someone better and being attacked by a shark...Rip out the eyes!

Epyon

12-11-2009, 12:53 AM

I have the same strategy when fighting someone better and being attacked by a shark...Rip out the eyes!

Always go for the eyes and throat. That's what's up.

Reno

12-11-2009, 01:04 AM

A man can't stand, he can't fight.
A man can't breathe, he can't fight.
A man can't see, he can't fight.

Ryujin

12-11-2009, 05:10 AM

Btw, that first video Cloud showed is exactly what I meant by throwing legs in on them from behind and going for the choke out. The video is almost exactly what my point was what I would do.

Edit: Actually, all of them are, just hadn't watched the other two yet.

I'm not as good as this guy, and not trained much in jiu jitsu, but this is exactly how I would handle the fight as a wrestler and how I handle fucking around with my friends when we're 'play' fighting.

Mado

12-11-2009, 06:52 AM

TheRAGER

12-11-2009, 12:20 PM

Dark Defender

12-11-2009, 02:03 PM

Fixed ;)

hahahaha

Mado

01-23-2010, 10:59 PM

Bumping this in case Ryujin missed this post:
http://www.planetmado.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9439#post9439