Namekian Fusion

[Syaoran]

Sooooo mado and I had a chat about nameks and their fusion system and this is what we came up.

As it currently is the Namek Fusion move must be known and both nameks must consent to the fusion, blah blah blah.

This is the revised version. The move still needs to be known, it can be done both consensually(that means both people agree) or it can be forced onto another Namek. The forcing process is harder to do and requires you to have beaten down the other namek significantly in order to do it. You also only have a chance to do it. Meaning it wont always work. Forcing another Namek is inherently evil so by doing so you would have an alignment reduction or some other such ref thing. Further more once you know the Fusion move you'll be able to do it backwards in a manner of speaking. Like Kami in the show you'll be able to split yourself into 2 beings, one good one evil. You'll have to state which one you intend to be prior to splitting or it will be random. For splitting the outcome is slightly different. Please see example

***Namek A is at 100pl and splits. Namek B and Namek C are then created and at 75 PL each respectively**

By splitting you'll sacrifice 25% of your pl to be pure good or evil. You'll retain all moves you knew when you were whole but so will your corresponding twin who will now be under the refs control.

[Mado]

Yep, all sounds good. I think the forced fusion should have a pretty low chance, however. As if it's done to a PC then they essentially die forever.

[Reno]

I really don't like the idea of forced fusion. If you want to absorb people for pl and/or moves, be an android. Also, when you fuse with someone they are in your brain helping you out...Fusion doesn't just let you steal their powerlevel and/or moves. If I was forced to fuse with someone, I would just talk shit to them all day and distract them, haha.

I do like the idea of splitting yourself into two beings though. The details might need some tinkering with, but the basic idea I like. One half becoming "pure good" and one being "pure evil" makes me think this could be exploited, for a small pl loss. For example, I kill everyone on the planet, stealing tons of stuff, then just split and become the good half. Jackpot!
Oh, something to mention is...When one namek "twin" dies, so does the other.

[Syaoran]

you have to leave some things out for the refs to play with >.>. We could further revise it so you could only choose to split into whichever twin your alignment is most suited for at the time, if you're already in the negatives you go all bad, in the positives all good, that would allieviate the go on a mass killing spree and then split to be good bit

[Reno]

Why would splitting into two beings raise their alignment? I think your actions should determine your alignment number.

[Reno]

Maybe this should go in the "changes to death" thread, but since we're already talking about Fusion here...

We never incorporated the Fusion Dance or the Potara Earrings into Planet Mado. I think the main reason is because we didn't know how to do it. The Namek Fusion already stumpped us.

Here's some ideas for them...

Potara earrings items
The only people we see with these earrings are the supreme kais. The omega good guys. Perhaps these could be some kind of reward in the other world, maybe only for the really good alignment players. Possibly winning the other world tournament, but anyone (good, bad, neutral) could win that, so I donno...
These earrings are permanent though, meaning once fused there's no going back. This is a problem in a game like this though, which is why I think we never added them...but I figured they were worth mentioning.

Fusion Dance move
Goku claims he learned this while dead, but we never find out who taugh him. Since he was dead, we can only assume good guys taught him it, so this could be a reward for being really good.
This move would work perfect in the game. It only lasts for 1 battle, then you un-fuse. Something like that.

I really haven't put a lot of thought into them...I'll let the refs do that. ^_^

[Mado]

Maybe this should go in the "changes to death" thread, but since we're already talking about Fusion here...

We never incorporated the Fusion Dance or the Potara Earrings into Planet Mado. I think the main reason is because we didn't know how to do it. The Namek Fusion already stumpped us.

Here's some ideas for them...

Potara earrings items
The only people we see with these earrings are the supreme kais. The omega good guys. Perhaps these could be some kind of reward in the other world, maybe only for the really good alignment players. Possibly winning the other world tournament, but anyone (good, bad, neutral) could win that, so I donno...
These earrings are permanent though, meaning once fused there's no going back. This is a problem in a game like this though, which is why I think we never added them...but I figured they were worth mentioning.

Fusion Dance move
Goku claims he learned this while dead, but we never find out who taugh him. Since he was dead, we can only assume good guys taught him it, so this could be a reward for being really good.
This move would work perfect in the game. It only lasts for 1 battle, then you un-fuse. Something like that.

I really haven't put a lot of thought into them...I'll let the refs do that. ^_^

Right. I was actually thinking of not letting players do a forced fusion with other players. I know I like to make PM as much like the show as possible, but there are a few things that just can't really work in a game, and I think forcing fusion upon another player is one of them. If we do keep it and allow it to be used on other players, perhaps it should just give them a 50% gain after a fight, and a 50% chance to learn each move from the opponent, and they have to kill their opponent for this to take affect.

[Reno]

I don't think it should work on players at all, unless they agree. No 50% absorb-like bonus or anything after killing them. Honestly I don't think it should work on namekian NPC's either, unless they agree of course.

[Syaoran]

so scratch that part off the idea, just scrub it if people are that agaisnt it

[Ryujin]

I'm confused as to what's wrong with this idea? It only works against Nameks, so not overpowering at all. If forced it should be very hard unless you're much more powerful, and in that case its probably not a huge gain for you anyhow. Would just 'kill' real players. Could add a cool roleplay addition to the game with NPC you forced in your body constantly complaining or mocking you =]

[Mado]

I want to keep the splitting part of the idea, it has a good possibility of adding a lot to role playing, especially with the fact that if one twin dies, so does the other. As far as force-fusion...not on players, but if your ref deemed the current situation feasible...

[Mado]

Any more thoughts/ideas, or are we set?

[Zazi]

In the show, Namekian fusion was permanent right? Maybe Namekians can only fuse with Namekian NPCs?

As for a normal fusion technique, maybe each turn alternates between the players involved, and then after a few moves the fusion wears off?

[Mado]

In the show, Namekian fusion was permanent right? Maybe Namekians can only fuse with Namekian NPCs?

As for a normal fusion technique, maybe each turn alternates between the players involved, and then after a few moves the fusion wears off?

We (the refs) have figured out a resolution to this :)

[geognisis]

Maybe this should go in the "changes to death" thread, but since we're already talking about Fusion here...

We never incorporated the Fusion Dance or the Potara Earrings into Planet Mado. I think the main reason is because we didn't know how to do it. The Namek Fusion already stumpped us.

Here's some ideas for them...

Potara earrings items
The only people we see with these earrings are the supreme kais. The omega good guys. Perhaps these could be some kind of reward in the other world, maybe only for the really good alignment players. Possibly winning the other world tournament, but anyone (good, bad, neutral) could win that, so I donno...
These earrings are permanent though, meaning once fused there's no going back. This is a problem in a game like this though, which is why I think we never added them...but I figured they were worth mentioning.

Fusion Dance move
Goku claims he learned this while dead, but we never find out who taugh him. Since he was dead, we can only assume good guys taught him it, so this could be a reward for being really good.
This move would work perfect in the game. It only lasts for 1 battle, then you un-fuse. Something like that.

I really haven't put a lot of thought into them...I'll let the refs do that. ^_^

i cant remember what episode it was on but i have watched dbz enough and i swear i heard someone say he learned it from the metameries ( fusion dance ) i believe it was old kia that said it

[Enkidu]

So help me understand. Fusion with two Namek PCs is or is not fine if they both consent? They do it for good or just for a fight? Thanks.

[Mado]

So help me understand. Fusion with two Namek PCs is or is not fine if they both consent? They do it for good or just for a fight? Thanks.

Yes, you can if you want to, but Namekian fusion is permanent.

[Maetrix]

i was personally looking forward to gettin to NAMEK eventually and convincing some NPC nameks to let me fuse them to myself to gain PL.

[smithi]

if a namek fusions permanent i dont get how a character sheet or even playing the game would work if you both say yes, how would u play the game if there are two players and one character.

[Epyon]

Probably the same way it worked in the show, bro.

[smithi]

how would both players play the game,

[Enkidu]

Well, that's why I think maybe they should be able to unfuse afterward. Otherwise why have the fusion as an option at all if both players cannot continue to play?

[Epyon]

It's always been a sacrifice.

[Enkidu]

So what do you mean by sacrifice? One player has to start a new character?

[Maetrix]

which wouldnt be TERRIBLE ,, because your friend/ally that fused with your old character can just be your MASTER and Train you back up.

[Enkidu]

Hmm...good point...I guess it would just be a matter of the new character finding the old. That would make for some interesting rpging with the ref too.

[geognisis]

a way it could work is you could only have a chance at forcing npc nameks and not pcc nameks ( and be down wit o.p.p. :p )

[Maetrix]

i agree. YEAH YOU KNOW ME!

[Polks]

Maybe this has already been suggested... or as a new guy Im not important enough but...

Why not for the fusion instead of being.... completely and utterly stuck together... they split into two from get go. What I'm saying is why not the one who is not the dominate in a fusion go to the afterlife and the one who is dominate control the body with all the bonuses. Of course the one who got dominated (gigaty) gets a little something something for his troubles....

Also did you guys know nameks can influence your death when killed by them. Whether or not you get to the afterlife or just float in darkness... alone... Krillin experienced that twice poor guy... Life is just so unfair to Krillin. He has a hot wife, but she makes him "earn" his food and not in the gigaty way.

Sorry back to topic.

[geognisis]

Maybe this has already been suggested... or as a new guy Im not important enough but...

Why not for the fusion instead of being.... completely and utterly stuck together... they split into two from get go. What I'm saying is why not the one who is not the dominate in a fusion go to the afterlife and the one who is dominate control the body with all the bonuses. Of course the one who got dominated (gigaty) gets a little something something for his troubles....

Also did you guys know nameks can influence your death when killed by them. Whether or not you get to the afterlife or just float in darkness... alone... Krillin experienced that twice poor guy... Life is just so unfair to Krillin. He has a hot wife, but she makes him "earn" his food and not in the gigaty way.

Sorry back to topic.

yea poor krillin , he's always so chipper and energetic but just keeps getting owned

KRILLIN OWNED 14:

[Dark Defender]

In the show, Namekian fusion was permanent right? Maybe Namekians can only fuse with Namekian NPCs?

As for a normal fusion technique, maybe each turn alternates between the players involved, and then after a few moves the fusion wears off?

are you a necromancer??

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/lblackwell/2005/03/01/thread_necromancer.png?maxWidth=600

[Zazi]

are you a necromancer??

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/lblackwell/2005/03/01/thread_necromancer.png?maxWidth=600
That's just an irrevelant post. If you already know the answer, why ask me?

ha, Anyways, I'm gonna start paying more attention to post dates now. If it really offends people I try to avoid it. Unless you're an asshole then I'll keep doing it.

I'm the guy that slows down when someone tailgates me. Otherwise I drive normally. Are you a tailgater? You see, I ask because I don't already know the answer.

[Maetrix]

hahahaha! Zazi = Killtacular! haha

[Zazi]

hahahaha! Zazi = Killtacular! haha
He was Piccolowned!

[Epyon]

He was Piccolowned!

If anyone here got owned in any way, it was certainly not Dark Defender. Someone may want to do some re-reading. ;-)